In the US there is a trend of some states banning abortions after 20 weeks conception, based on the theory that the fetus can feel pain at this point. A recent NY Times article states "Based on current knowledge, medical organizations generally reject the notion that a fetus can feel pain before 24 weeks."
"The suggestion that a fetus at 20 weeks can feel pain is inconsistent with the biological evidence" says David Grimes (a prominent researcher & professor of ob/gyn) "To suggest that pain can be perceived without a cerebral cortex is also inconsistent with the definition of pain."
The Royal College of Ob/Gyn in Britain said of the brain development of fetuses: "Connections from the periphery to the cortex are not intact before 24 weeks of gestation and, as most neuroscientists believe that the cortex is necessary for pain perception, it can be concluded that the fetus cannot experience pain in any sense prior to this gestation." The report goes on to say the physical recoiling and hormonal responses of younger fetuses to needle touches are reflexive and do not indicate pain awareness.
Abortion opponents are countering this by claiming that a functioning cortex is not necessary for the experience of pain. And I would have to agree based on my experience as a womb twin healer.
I've worked with womb twin survivors who remember and feel pain from the earliest moments of conception, and carried it their whole lifetime into adulthood. The details don't change and are consistent over time. I've gone back to those painful places with them and witnessed a tragedy so consistently painful it cannot be argued with. It may be a bigger psychic pain, an overwhelming all-encompassing, deep imprint on every cell kind of pain that could be similar or different from the lymbic system pain perception we know and refer to in the abortion controversy mentioned above. Regardless of the type of pain, it is truly there and it doesn't go away until it is acknowledged and expressed and then hopefully begins to lift.
What I'm declaring is: People distinctly, and with great detail, feel and recall/describe the pain of their egg splitting, their twin not implanting, their twin's cells being reabsorbed into their cells, their mother not wanting them, their mother's failed abortion attempts, their mother's successful abortion attempt on their twin, etc. And I believe it is pain, not just memory, because it gets triggered and needs release and dissipates with healing - you can't say that about memory. But could it be clairsentience that later became perceived as pain, since it was repressed and dramatic and was hard to identify? Perhaps pain is the catchword we gave it to explain the huge impact of this event.
In any case, I think there are some things that are beyond our current comprehension, probably this very subject among them. But when you see the truth in the eyes of the soul while describing their conception and the moments around it, steeped in pain so deep it can never be forgotten, there leaves no room for doubt. It just has to be accepted. And my feeling is - even if the mind made it all up - it's still a valid vehicle in which to move this energy out and express something so as to move toward healing, so all of it needs to be considered valid, regardless of the label we put on it.
As I always say, the proof is in the healing.
This blog is for Womb Twin Survivors based in the USA. Womb Twin Survivors started life as a twin/multiple in the womb but their twin/multiple died during pregnancy or near birth. If you live in the USA and are a Womb Twin Survivor (or think you are) then this is the blog for you.
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Saturday, September 24, 2011
Fetal Pain - When?
In the US there is a trend of some states banning abortions after 20 weeks conception, based on the theory that the fetus can feel pain at this point. A recent NY Times article states "Based on current knowledge, medical organizations generally reject the notion that a fetus can feel pain before 24 weeks."
"The suggestion that a fetus at 20 weeks can feel pain is inconsistent with the biological evidence" says David Grimes (a prominent researcher & professor of ob/gyn) "To suggest that pain can be perceived without a cerebral cortex is also inconsistent with the definition of pain."
The Royal College of Ob/Gyn in Britain said of the brain development of fetuses: "Connections from the periphery to the cortex are not intact before 24 weeks of gestation and, as most neuroscientists believe that the cortex is necessary for pain perception, it can be concluded that the fetus cannot experience pain in any sense prior to this gestation." The report goes on to say the physical recoiling and hormonal responses of younger fetuses to needle touches are reflexive and do not indicate pain awareness.
Abortion opponents are countering this by claiming that a functioning cortex is not necessary for the experience of pain. And I would have to agree based on my experience as a womb twin healer.
I've worked with womb twin survivors who remember and feel pain from the earliest moments of conception, and carried it their whole lifetime into adulthood. The details don't change and are consistent over time. I've gone back to those painful places with them and witnessed a tragedy so consistently painful it cannot be argued with. It may be a bigger psychic pain, an overwhelming all-encompassing, deep imprint on every cell kind of pain that could be similar or different from the lymbic system pain perception we know and refer to in the abortion controversy mentioned above. Regardless of the type of pain, it is truly there and it doesn't go away until it is acknowledged and expressed and then hopefully begins to lift.
What I'm declaring is: People distinctly, and with great detail, feel and recall/describe the pain of their egg splitting, their twin not implanting, their twin's cells being reabsorbed into their cells, their mother not wanting them, their mother's failed abortion attempts, their mother's successful abortion attempt on their twin, etc. And I believe it is pain, not just memory, because it gets triggered and needs release and dissipates with healing - you can't say that about memory. But could it be clairsentience that later became perceived as pain, since it was repressed and dramatic and was hard to identify? Perhaps pain is the catchword we gave it to explain the huge impact of this event.
In any case, I think there are some things that are beyond our current comprehension, probably this very subject among them. But when you see the truth in the eyes of the soul while describing their conception and the moments around it, steeped in pain so deep it can never be forgotten, there leaves no room for doubt. It just has to be accepted. And my feeling is - even if the mind made it all up - it's still a valid vehicle in which to move this energy out and express something so as to move toward healing, so all of it needs to be considered valid, regardless of the label we put on it.
As I always say, the proof is in the healing.
"The suggestion that a fetus at 20 weeks can feel pain is inconsistent with the biological evidence" says David Grimes (a prominent researcher & professor of ob/gyn) "To suggest that pain can be perceived without a cerebral cortex is also inconsistent with the definition of pain."
The Royal College of Ob/Gyn in Britain said of the brain development of fetuses: "Connections from the periphery to the cortex are not intact before 24 weeks of gestation and, as most neuroscientists believe that the cortex is necessary for pain perception, it can be concluded that the fetus cannot experience pain in any sense prior to this gestation." The report goes on to say the physical recoiling and hormonal responses of younger fetuses to needle touches are reflexive and do not indicate pain awareness.
Abortion opponents are countering this by claiming that a functioning cortex is not necessary for the experience of pain. And I would have to agree based on my experience as a womb twin healer.
I've worked with womb twin survivors who remember and feel pain from the earliest moments of conception, and carried it their whole lifetime into adulthood. The details don't change and are consistent over time. I've gone back to those painful places with them and witnessed a tragedy so consistently painful it cannot be argued with. It may be a bigger psychic pain, an overwhelming all-encompassing, deep imprint on every cell kind of pain that could be similar or different from the lymbic system pain perception we know and refer to in the abortion controversy mentioned above. Regardless of the type of pain, it is truly there and it doesn't go away until it is acknowledged and expressed and then hopefully begins to lift.
What I'm declaring is: People distinctly, and with great detail, feel and recall/describe the pain of their egg splitting, their twin not implanting, their twin's cells being reabsorbed into their cells, their mother not wanting them, their mother's failed abortion attempts, their mother's successful abortion attempt on their twin, etc. And I believe it is pain, not just memory, because it gets triggered and needs release and dissipates with healing - you can't say that about memory. But could it be clairsentience that later became perceived as pain, since it was repressed and dramatic and was hard to identify? Perhaps pain is the catchword we gave it to explain the huge impact of this event.
In any case, I think there are some things that are beyond our current comprehension, probably this very subject among them. But when you see the truth in the eyes of the soul while describing their conception and the moments around it, steeped in pain so deep it can never be forgotten, there leaves no room for doubt. It just has to be accepted. And my feeling is - even if the mind made it all up - it's still a valid vehicle in which to move this energy out and express something so as to move toward healing, so all of it needs to be considered valid, regardless of the label we put on it.
As I always say, the proof is in the healing.
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